Q:But what about when she get's past the age of child bearing?
A:She may have knowledge that others do not that will efect the species.

Or she may not.  If then, then what?  Axe her?  Axe her very nicely and see if she says yes?

So, if she's past the age of child bearing and she doesn't have any knowledge that OTHERS DO NOT that will effect the species, its alright to uh... what?

..."and many Christians have believed in communal ownership of property and egalitarian distribution of wealth. Communism is a worldview on economic and social matters, but its atheistic tendencies are not a necessary component."

You are equivocating hard core.

No, I'm not.  Many European socialists have been Christians.  While atheism has been officially promoted by Leninist and Maoist governments, religious freedom was also officially guaranteed under those regimes.  I myself met with quite a few Christians and visited working churches in the Soviet Union when I went there in 1965.

"Since atheism promotes no moral code, literally any behavior is consistent with atheism except behavior that endorses belief in gods."

DING DING DING  You win a prize!  EXACTLY.  Now see if you can follow the rest of the argument.  Since atheism promotes no moral code (at least in theory, not inherently) it might follow that communism is just as good an expression as anything else.  How do you as an atheist objectively object to what the Stalinists did?  Or do you just tell them luk a li'l guhl..."Please don't kill millions of people.. pretty please with sugar on top?"

Communism was promoted as a religion, and the Party behaved very much like an ecclesiastical authority.  Have you ever read Koestler's classic The God that Failed?  Anyway, I share the opinions of most (but not all) Christians that murder is immoral.  I just don't need a church or a Communist Party to dictate my morality.  You apparently share that trait with Communists--that absolutely any behavior consistent with the dictates of a moral authority is moral.  That includes every conceivable form of behavior that you now consider sinful.  Luckily, you do not believe that God wants you to murder anyone.  Unfortunately, that has not been the case for all Christians in the past.  Some have felt inspired by God (or the Communist Party) to commit quite brutal murders.

"Communist principles are based not on atheism, but on Party doctrine."

Well that's demonstrably false.  I'd demonstrate it, too, if it would matter.  I seem to be the only one here that cares about what the communists actually said, though.

I am aware of no such demonstration from you.  You often threaten to make arguments that you never get around to actually making.

"I'm not going to defend the views of Communists. I think of Communism as just another religion. The gods and the scriptures may change, but the behavior stays the same."

Well of course associating communism with religion is good propoganda on your side, but what it really does is support the Christian POV that all people everywhere tend to do some pretty nasty things, and our worldview ought to accurately reflect that reality.

Communism is promoted as a religion--the basis for moral authority.  Like other religions, it has inspired people to commit horrendous atrocities.  That does not mean that it lacks a benevolent side.  The core philosophy appears benign enough.  It's all about what's good for humanity.  Same as the Bible.  

"Then your education in communist and socialist history is sorely lacking."

Au contraire.  If you want to go to the sources, then LET'S GO.  This is standard Copernican argumentation.  You want to assert until the sun goes down, but you don't want to go to the sources.  So long as you are allowed to argue in the ethereal abstract you sound like you got a case.  Let's go to the mattresses, my friend.

You want us to toss Communist scripture at each other?  I can also draw on personal experience with real Communist Party members, which you cannot.  As with any religious scripture, adherents can form opposite interpretations of the content.  I've seen Communists argue both sides of their religion.  Feel free to educate me further.  I asked you if you understood the difference between Mensheviks and Bolsheviks.  Would you like to start there?

...The only way to prove who is right is to look at the sources.

If by "sources" you mean Communist scripture, then you are wrong.  You also need to look at historical events and the different interpretations that people imposed on scripture.  You won't find in any "sources" why Trotsky ended up with an icepick in his skull.

"Your views on christian doctrine are a gross simplification that ignores the obvious fact that the principles of christianity were defined for us by the Christians themselves in the runup to the Inquisition."

Aha, but that is where you are wrong, my friend.  Christianity was essentially codified between 300 and 400 AD, many many many years before the Inquisition.  After this point, Christians relied on a certain set of documents to be their primary source of authority, although of course the Roman Catholic church promoted tradition throughout until the breach between 'tradition' and the Scriptures was so obvious we had a reformation- 1200 years after the codification.

The fourth century established the principles that ultimately led to the Inquisition.  Why is that so difficult for you to admit?  It's not as if Christians never conducted pogroms and religious atrocities before the Inquisition.  The persecution of judaism was mild under the pagan Romans compared to how it fared under Christian-inspired hatred.

If you think you can justify the inquisition from the Scriptures that had been established for more than 1,000 years, put your money where your mouth is.  Shall we start it out at $5.00?

Don't think I'm kidding.  People start to behave a little more seriously and honestly when there is money on the line.  If you think your argument is valid, it should be pretty easy to make your $5.00.

Johnny, why do you bother with such lame rhetorical ploys?  You and I both know that neither of us will ever collect on such a bet.