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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2006, 02:02:03 AM »

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No, YOU'VE misunderstood entirely. I too was talking about possibilities.


If so, then what is illogical or even inconsistent about the assertion that "Every possible event must occur given infinite opportunity for it to occur."

You have not (and I'll say "cannot") explain what it means for an event both to have a capability of occurrence and yet to never occur even when given infinite opportunity for it to occur.

I don't think you've thought this through. Lots of possible events will not occur in our universe but this is only due to their lack of opportunity to occur. We live in a finite universe. Logical improbility is a fact only in a finite universe like ours; but logical improbability doesn't exist in a world without such bounds.

Heaven allegedly is such a world. This is why all possibly occurring events will occur in heaven. The only way that a event will not occur in heaven, if heaven is eternal, is for the event to be a logical impossibility (not a logical improbability).
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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2006, 08:53:04 AM »

"You have not (and I'll say "cannot") explain what it means for an event both to have a capability of occurrence and yet to never occur even when given infinite opportunity for it to occur."

I'm only a post away from doing so.  Don't tell me that I haven't, or cannot explain what I mean, or that I haven't thought it through, when I'm half way through an explanation and you interrupt with an objection 'This is not about chances but possibilities' as though my example is not about possibilities.  Your only excuse might be that you don't understand what I'm talking about, except that you have already said that you do understand what I'm talking about.  Since you claim to see, your guilt remains.

"Lots of possible events will not occur in our universe but this is only due to their lack of opportunity to occur. We live in a finite universe."

Do we?  Would this be your Universe1 or your Universe2?
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