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« on: March 17, 2006, 07:52:40 PM »

How low can are acadamey (oscars) get.It is bad enough with movies like Brokeback MT. and Trans America but for best origanal song they named from the movie Hustle and Flow "It's hard out here for a pimp" WHich practically glorified prostitution and selling women for sex. That song is sick and vile. It seems the more liberal the movie the more oscars it gets. So I would like to not thank the acadamey.
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2006, 11:07:17 AM »

the fact that you put brokeback and transamerica in the same category as a (c)rap movie says more about your irrational prejudice than it does about the academy. doesn't the bible say "judge not lest ye be judged" and something about not casting the first stone?

jesusboy, you are a hypocrite and you make me sick.
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2006, 05:19:33 PM »

I only have time for a quick reply and it is this.
I am not the judge God is, and it is clearly said in the bible that things in those rotten movies are flat out wrong . Am I saying kill all the gays and trans gendered no I am only saying it is wrong. So I am not beging a hypocrite at all. Forgive me for standing on moral principles unlike the rest of our nation. I got to go I will try to post more later if I have the time.
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2006, 09:20:47 AM »

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the bible doesn't say anything about transgendered people. No one around at that time probably had any idea what that was. Being transgendered is a legitimate medical condition where your genes got messed up in the womb. A boy can be born with an extra X chromosone, or have testes that don't drop so they appear to be a girl. People don't choose to be transgendered - they are literally born with the wrong sex organs for what they are physiologically. This isn't theory, it is a scientific fact. How the hell can you consider it a sin to be what "God" made you? You might as well say an entire race is d-mned.

So my accusation stands and you still make me sick.
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2006, 07:15:36 PM »

I think Ben Stein's analysis is on target.  Hollywood, in aggregate, doesn't have a good enough moral compass to know what it should be standing up for.  It demonstrates this compass through the Oscars not only in what is glorified in the theatre but more so by what is glorified outside the theatre ($1000+ outfits, limos, glamor, etc.)
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2006, 02:44:47 PM »

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I think Ben Stein's analysis is on target.  Hollywood, in aggregate, doesn't have a good enough moral compass to know what it should be standing up for.  It demonstrates this compass through the Oscars not only in what is glorified in the theatre but more so by what is glorified outside the theatre ($1000+ outfits, limos, glamor, etc.)


Oh, Hollywood is a cesspool. And for the record, I think the pimp song is moronic simply on a musical level. But what does that have to do with the topic, which is that jesusboy is vilifying a story about a transgendered person?
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2006, 03:08:48 PM »

"You might as well say an entire race is d-mned."

That is in fact what I say.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2006, 03:28:12 PM »

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"You might as well say an entire race is d-mned."

That is in fact what I say.


No you don't. You don't think we're all going to hell. You just laid it out in another post that we will all have the chance to answer come judgment day, and that certain people will be "saved" or whatever you want to call it. That is different from saying someone is d-amned. Being d-amned implies no hope for salvation.
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2006, 03:49:56 PM »

"You just laid it out in another post that we will all have the chance to answer come judgment day,"

That is my hope and belief, but I have no explicit assurance of that.

"That is different from saying someone is d-amned. Being d-amned implies no hope for salvation."

Not necessarily, not from a theological POV.  We are all d--ned, because we were all born into sin- unable to do anything about it, just as in the case of your transgendered example.  That doesn't mean that I don't think God hasn't done something to intervene.  Or try, anyway.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2006, 07:24:39 PM »

Rangar There is a huge difference between the genetic diseases that you refer to and changing your gender because you think your something else. You are correct in saying that the bible says nothing specifically about trans genedered people, but God does not make mistakes. Take a TG and show him/her their DNA and it will say man or women. To change your gender because you don't like what you are is a slap in the face to God. In Jeremiah it says "that you knit me together in my mothers womb therefore I am fearfully and wonderfully made". He also says that God knew us and had a plan for us before we were born.  That is why I have a problem with a movie that makes it look okay.  What happens when a TG changes their mind after beging changed? IT may be beneficial to them but it hurts their families creates awkwardness with kids. What if a person decided that he/she wants to become a Dog should he/she become one. Where do we draw the line.  
I am glad however that you agree that IT's hard out here for a pimp is a pathetic song.
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2006, 02:39:34 PM »

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the fact that you put brokeback and transamerica in the same category as a (c)rap movie says more about your irrational prejudice than it does about the academy. doesn't the bible say "judge not lest ye be judged" and something about not casting the first stone?

jesusboy, you are a hypocrite and you make me sick.


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Ragnar, there is a differnce between prejudice and hypocrisy.  Without prejudice we would stand for nothing, and any behavior would be acceptable, including pedophilia, killing living babies by suctioning their tiny brains out while they are half-born, euthanasia for anyone who doesn't fit one's lifestyle, cheating on our spouses, friend, allies, taxes, you name it.  We need to be prejudiced against doing to others what we wouldn't want done to us, or we have no moral standards.

I am not prejudiced against homosexuals, but I am prejudiced against having others flaunting their differences in my face as a challenge.  I agree that one has a choice not to go see an offensive movie, but touting that movie in all the media is throwing a punch at my nose and not stopping where my nose begins.  It is so easy to say that we have the choice of turning off the TV or radio, or not reading a paper or magazine, and those of us who have standards do so.  But our children are targeted by all this hype, and they are not mature enough to make wise choices, and it is the responsibility of EVERYONE not to do anything publicly that will adversely affect our young.  No one has the right to decide that they are the ones to teach other people's 6 year olds how homosexuals perform the sex act, when they shouldn't even be exposed to how heterosexuals do.  If panderers don't care whom they pander to, let them pander to the good in us, not our dark sides.

I have lived long enough to see how choices that people made in the past affect the present, and I am here to say that where moral standards were set aside as being too inhibitive that a wellspring was created that set the stage for gangs running the streets attacking innocent people, people having sex on prime-time TV, schools chaotic with students running amok, rape the order of the day on campuses and other public institutions, and public officials in every organization from the Girl Scouts to the Federal Government betraying their trust and stealing funds.  And in our brainwashed-into-being-unprejudiced-minds we are accepting it all.

Ragnar, you are the true hypocrite for judging those who have standards while accusing THEM of being judges simply because their beliefs are not your beliefs.  Prejudice is not based on hate, but you are accusing others of hatred.  Prejudice is not belittling others for being different, it is just saying that is not the choice for oneself.  Who are you to belittle and castigate  jesusboy for having a different opinion, if not a hypocrite?  This is supposed to be a debate forum, and people should debate from different sides without being uncivil and demeaning, but perhaps you, personally, are unable to produce a better argument than the other side, so your only recourse is to vilify???
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2006, 06:47:57 PM »

Hey yankee can I just say amen brother ah heck I will
Amen Brother
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2006, 12:50:28 AM »

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Hey yankee can I just say amen brother ah heck I will
Amen Brother
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jesusboy, I appreciate your approval.  I get very little of it.  When a debate, or any other encounter,  is really a search and destroy mission, I will aways defend the victim.

By the way, I am a 74 year-old grandMOTHER, and I will whack anyone who treats me like a little old lady with my cane.
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2006, 04:55:44 PM »

*interesting*  Just blame it on the Church of Scientology.
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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2006, 01:08:59 AM »

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*interesting*  Just blame it on the Church of Scientology.


It is so easy to stand on the sidelines and make snide remarks, isn't it?  A debate consists of rational arguments from every point of view, and that comment is irrelevant to the subject.  I don't have a clue as to what the Church of Scientology stands for, and unless I meet someone who belongs to it, and we become friends, I won't make a point of finding out.

However outrageous other peoples's ideas may seem, so long as they don't try to force others to fall in line, they deserve a forum where they can be heard with understanding.  Who knows, one may learn something useful.
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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2006, 04:09:44 PM »

A lot of actors and actresses belong to the church of scientology.  Church of Scientology indoctrinates their ideas on their members.  Who do you think runs the oscars?
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2006, 11:55:36 PM »

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A lot of actors and actresses belong to the church of scientology.  Church of Scientology indoctrinates their ideas on their members.  Who do you think runs the oscars?


Well, right at this point in time, I am under the impression that the gays had the biggest impact on subject selection.  Are they Scientologists, too?
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2006, 03:38:24 PM »

I have no idea.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2006, 05:56:30 PM »

I dont know a whole lot about scientology [sheblindedmewithscience] but what I do know is that it is completely warped. The basic gist is basically mind over matter. You are not really sick your only sick in your mind and if you think hard enough you can cure yourself. This idea pans out in the other bleiefs of scientology like creating your own god your own way to salvation etc. It is basically a combination of existentialism and humanism wrapped in one. What makes it popular is that appeals to the desire of everyone subconciously to do things on our own with no god or whatever we make up. The Bible however clearly dissgrees stating that christ is the only way and gives several examples of what happend to the false gods of the old testament.  The bible also states that god is completely soverign and it his him who heals and takes away.  
Hollywood actors may have beauty fame and fortune but what they lack is common sense. If you hold scientology to a microscope it falls apart very quickly. Who knows scientology may be dropped at any moment for some new latest thing. I have a hunch if animal sacrifies became popular hollywood would be right in middle of it.
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