Not really, as I've made clear from my other cited sources that all I've done is give a generalization of everything I've read as you clearly thought I was lifting it from Scott's site. Or I could have simply pointed out Behe's blog that gives the same general facts I've given in this thread: http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/A3DGRQ0IO7KYQ2/ref=cm_blog_blog I'm sure you would have been quick to say I "cut and pasted" Behe too.
Sometimes you do try to paraphrase what you read, but you don't do a very good job. Having the source material often helps me to understand the point you are trying to make. For example, I now have a better grasp of where you are coming from with your frequent references to the loss and gain of genetic information. I thought that you were trying to paraphrase Dembski, but it now seems more likely that you were likely refencing
Werner Gitt's somewhat discredited ideas on information theory. Gitt has some background in information theory, but he makes some basic mistakes, not the least of which is his confused notion that information always implies intelligent design. In fact, information theory is more about signal processing than semantics. In any case, as I've made clear in the past, the claims about increases and decreases in genetic information are simply irrelevant. Evolution theory makes no claims one way or the other about information.
That all this aligns with Purdom's article as well simply goes into the fact this is the outlook from the other side, and creationist's aren't too upset about it. That you need to make this argument about how I say something rather than what I have to say shows a clear attempt to blow smoke.
I'll just reiterate that I often have trouble understanding the point you are trying to get across because it is garbled either by failure to proofread what you wrote or an imperfect grasp of the material you are trying to paraphrase. The discussion in this thread was a case in point. Your comments became much clearer once I had access to the source material.
I don't pretend to understand all of the biology or chemistry in Lenski's article, and I think that you are also out of your league when you start talking about the catabalization of citrates, much of which was uncredited cut-and-paste or attempts to paraphrase from Purdom. I don't think that you intended so much to deceive as I think that you were deliberately being coy in order to impress readers with your understanding of biology.
You mean cutting it down to basics? Yeah, you'll find a lot of overlap with that as I showed with the scientific article that clearly didn't have much "creationist screed" in it. You want references for things like that I suggest simply see wikipedia next time, as nothing I've said so far can be described as difficult to understand. Heck, it was the fairly simplistic "depending on the level of oxygen" statement that got you started on this sad chase. Not exactly something one can't understand with a high school education.
That was simplistic, and I addressed it quite well, I think. Lenski's experiment showed a genuine chain of mutation that led to a major evolutionary shift. Evolution is not magic, you know. It does depend on the availability of genetic material that can lead to an adaptation.
Having been a teacher, I've seen that sort of plagiarization before in students, and it is pretty easy to spot.
Ok Cop. Time to take your medication, and repeat the words: A forum is not a term paper. Say it with me Cop: A forum is not a term paper. Sesame Street it one more time: A forum is not a term paper. Rest assured Cop. when the day comes that I am required to write one for you (I've written dozens or at least 5), I will give it the respect, proffesionalism, and the sacred bibliography that a paper is due. Till then: A forum is not a term paper. Ok?
You can attempt to treat your behavior as inconsequential, but it really weakens your argument when you are caught trying to use the work of others to puff up your own image. You have already been caught cutting and pasting material under your name without citing its source. It is less serious (i.e. actually legal) to paraphrase the material of others, but it is still intellectually dishonest to pass off the arguments of others as purely you own thoughts on a subject. The whole point of writing papers in school is not just to teach critical thinking, but to teach you how to make a well-structured argument. You aren't required to do a term paper here, but you are expected to make honest, coherent arguments.
The idea that laboratories are intelligently created should not be confused with a laboratory experiment that demonstrates unguided evolution in a species of bacteria.
And as Scott's site clearly notes (see what I did there) there was clearly "aiming" going on. Though it would be evident for no other reason than the fact that this laboratory experiment has been going on for years in a lab (controlled environment) with a routine, while "unguided" would be more "unguided" than a schedule. After such a long time investing in this it would be understandable for Lenski and other evolutionists to let excitement overcome sense.
Again, you aren't making a coherent argument here. An experiment is always "guided" in the sense that conditions are controlled in order to eliminate extraneous factors. Are you claiming that Lenski somehow caused the evolutionary mutation by some kind of dishonest manipulation? How do you think that the laboratory conditions biased the data or the conclusions?