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Copernicus

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Re: Abortion 2
« Reply #240 on: May 12, 2009, 02:10:37 AM »
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... At some point in the near future, you'll have to not only disagree with folk like me but turn us in as enemies of the state and you'll have to show your allegiance to them by taking the mark...

You have an active paranoid imagination.  I have no desire for a government that tries to control religious conscience, and I do not favor using the government to promote my point of view on religion, unlike many of my religious acquaintances.
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Re: Abortion 2
« Reply #241 on: May 12, 2009, 05:04:19 AM »
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Nice to hear from you - it looks like you're putting your jet lag time to good use.  3:10AM!!!  I hope it was a "healthy", interesting etc. etc. trip. 

You have an active paranoid imagination.
I want to believe you and believe that we don't repeat the past.  The rise of the antiChrist will be unparalleled in history.  If you or I had the sad experience of being in Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia or Idy Amin's Uganda or Pol Pot's Cambodia or Protestant in a Roman Catholic owned government, etc. etc.  I think you might be a little bit (not trying to corner you here) more understanding about what can happen when the inmates take over the institution.  I've met people who lived under buildings and in caves for years just to stay alive because they were the "wrong thinking or problem" type of people.  People who maybe didn't agree with the current administration "at the time".  You and I disagree and can still be civil (eh?).  There are some who cannot.

12.Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God--
13.children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.  John 1:12,13

The Muslums convert people at the point of the sword.  The sword of the Spirit, the word of God, speaking the truth (in love when at all possible) are the weapons of the Christian faith.
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Re: Abortion 2
« Reply #242 on: May 12, 2009, 12:16:02 PM »
Quote from: Copernicus on May 12, 2009, 02:10:37 AM
Quote from: jfoxton on May 06, 2009, 08:08:09 PM
... At some point in the near future, you'll have to not only disagree with folk like me but turn us in as enemies of the state and you'll have to show your allegiance to them by taking the mark...

You have an active paranoid imagination.  I have no desire for a government that tries to control religious conscience, and I do not favor using the government to promote my point of view on religion, unlike many of my religious acquaintances.

An odd comment from one who frequently insists that "religious conscience" (this is kind of redundant) must not enter political issues (thus only allowing your religion), and supports removal of expressing that religious conscience in public places. You sure you don't desire government control to some degree if not all?
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Re: Abortion 2
« Reply #243 on: May 13, 2009, 02:40:30 PM »
Quote from: jfoxton on May 12, 2009, 05:04:19 AM
Nice to hear from you - it looks like you're putting your jet lag time to good use.  3:10AM!!!  I hope it was a "healthy", interesting etc. etc. trip. 

Don't forget that 3:10 am where you are is not the same everywhere else in the world.  I'm in Italy atm.

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I want to believe you and believe that we don't repeat the past.  The rise of the antiChrist will be unparalleled in history. 


Trying to lecture an atheist about the Antichrist is as effective as quoting scripture to one.  Save it for those who have already bought into your belief system.  I have not.

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If you or I had the sad experience of being in Hitler's Germany or Stalin's Russia or Idy Amin's Uganda or Pol Pot's Cambodia or Protestant in a Roman Catholic owned government, etc. etc.  I think you might be a little bit (not trying to corner you here) more understanding about what can happen when the inmates take over the institution.
 

What is it you think you know about Hitler, Stalin, and other historical tyrants that you think I don't know?

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I've met people who lived under buildings and in caves for years just to stay alive because they were the "wrong thinking or problem" type of people.  People who maybe didn't agree with the current administration "at the time".  You and I disagree and can still be civil (eh?).  There are some who cannot.

OK.  It never crossed my mind that we weren't being civil.

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12.Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God--
13.children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God.  John 1:12,13

Scripture does not inspire me the way it inspires you.  I was hoping that you might have guessed this.  ;)

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The Muslums convert people at the point of the sword.  The sword of the Spirit, the word of God, speaking the truth (in love when at all possible) are the weapons of the Christian faith.

Your sweeping generalizations about Muslims and Christians are really without basis.  Most Muslims do not try to convert people at the point of the sword, and many past Christians have tried to do just that.
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Re: Abortion 2
« Reply #244 on: May 15, 2009, 08:02:39 PM »
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Trying to lecture an atheist about the Antichrist is as effective as quoting scripture to one.  Save it for those who have already bought into your belief system.  I have not.

I didn't know that the future was not of interest to you.  It will happen whether you believe it or not.  I'm sure if you try hard enough you can rationalize it all away, or not.

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What is it you think you know about Hitler, Stalin, and other historical tyrants that you think I don't know?

Oh, I'd never say you're ignorant, just too comfortable (or some degree of denial) to want to believe that you could find yourself having to deal with a them or me scenario.   Your intellectual prowess is not in question.

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Scripture does not inspire me the way it inspires you.  I was hoping that you might have guessed this.

Awe shucks!  Why do you hang around a "Christian" website?  Here I thought I would be chewing the fat about theological issues with the brethren.  So maybe you're here to get a good laugh or to "convert" someone.  Sure makes it interesting.  St. Johnny doesn't let you get away with much though.

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Your sweeping generalizations about Muslims and Christians are really without basis.  Most Muslims do not try to convert people at the point of the sword, and many past Christians have tried to do just that.

I see, most Muslims don't but many Christians do.  I'd tend to think that most Muslims and most Christians don't would be more like it.  Of course throughout history there has been exceptions (slaughter of the Huguenots - done by Christians to Christians????).  Especially when the folk at the top have the supposed power to eject from the faith those who resist their unquestioned reasoning and power/position.   Forced conversions (does anyone believe they're actually converted????) are just devilish!  Since Christ is the Christians ultimate example, when did He ever "force" anyone to believe in Him?  Oh, He definitely did rile the self righteous by letting them know where they'd end up if they didn't repent.  I digress! 


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Re: Abortion 2
« Reply #245 on: May 17, 2009, 11:46:28 PM »
Quote from: jfoxton on May 15, 2009, 08:02:39 PM
I didn't know that the future was not of interest to you.  It will happen whether you believe it or not.  I'm sure if you try hard enough you can rationalize it all away, or not.

The future is of as much interest to me as it is to you, and I do not doubt that it will happen.  I suspect that we have slightly different ideas on just how the future will turn out.  ;)

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Oh, I'd never say you're ignorant, just too comfortable (or some degree of denial) to want to believe that you could find yourself having to deal with a them or me scenario.   Your intellectual prowess is not in question.

I tried to make sense of your reference to famous tyrants, but I'm not making much progress in getting you to explain your remarks.  I don't know what any of this has to do with my "intellectual prowess".

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Awe shucks!  Why do you hang around a "Christian" website?  Here I thought I would be chewing the fat about theological issues with the brethren.  So maybe you're here to get a good laugh or to "convert" someone.  Sure makes it interesting.  St. Johnny doesn't let you get away with much though.

I hang around here because I enjoy the interactions and debates with some of the locals.  Sntjohnny runs a very open web site, which is a little unusual for a Christian discussion forum.   He doesn't go out of his way to ban people he disagrees with.  The fact that it is an openly Christian forum doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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