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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2004, 12:58:27 PM »
NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT MATT IS SAYING.
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« Reply #41 on: December 23, 2004, 09:56:41 AM »
Well, then why am I wrong about Buddhism?

Are you saying you just don't believe in God?
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« Reply #42 on: December 23, 2004, 12:29:11 PM »
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NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT MATT IS SAYING.


Well, Matt was saying that Buddhism is wrong.  If you don't believe what matt was saying, then you don't believe that Buddhism is wrong...
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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2005, 04:22:19 PM »
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Well, Matt was saying that Buddhism is wrong. If you don't believe what matt was saying, then you don't believe that Buddhism is wrong...

Your drawing conclusions.
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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2005, 05:20:29 PM »
and 'your' making no 'cence'.
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« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2005, 05:24:59 PM »
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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2005, 05:32:32 PM »
You have not refuted my argument and points against Buddhism.

You cannot believe in Buddhism and be an Atheist at the same time  because they are contradictions to each other.

Either you provide a valid argument for the points I made or you are taking one large leap of faith to believe in Buddhism.
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« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2005, 03:41:41 PM »
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You cannot believe in Buddhism and be an Atheist at the same time because they are contradictions to each other.


Prove it!
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« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2005, 04:45:34 PM »
All religions cannot be true.

One is right and the other is wrong.

There is an objective truth.

While most religions have some kind of similiar moral code because God has implanted right and wrong on our consciences, they disagree on virtually every major issue, including the nature of God, the nature of man, sin, salvation, heaven, hell, and creation.

How can you believe in two religions at the same time?

If you do, then you are implying that there is no objective truth.

Jews, Christians, and Muslims believe in different versions of a theistic God, while most Hindus and New Agers believe that everything that exists is part of an impersonal, pantheistic force they call God.

Many Hindus believe that evil is a complete illusion, while Christians, Muslims, and Jews believe that evil is real.

Christians believe that people are saved by grace while all other religions, if they believe in salvation at all, teach some kind of salvation by good works (the definition of "good" and what one is saved from varies greatly).

All religions do not believe the same things.

Believe it or not, atheism is a belief.
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« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2005, 04:49:36 PM »
True, but you can still be both go to this website http://mb-soft.com/believe/txo/atheism.htm
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« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2005, 05:00:43 PM »
I understand what you are saying.

However, do you believe Siddhautma Gautama is the enlightened one?

You still have not posed problems to my arguments against Buddhism though.

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1. the noble truth of dukkha (suffering, dissatisfaction, stress): life is fundamentally fraught with disappointment of every description.

Okay, to say that everything is suffering, one should have some idea of joy and pleasure. We see suffering as suffering only in contrast to something that can be enjoyed. We would not know suffering as suffering if everything were indeed suffering.



We should not know suffering as suffering if everything were indeed suffering.
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« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2005, 04:06:45 PM »
Maybe I should be a Buddhist then.
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« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2005, 04:06:46 PM »
Maybe I should be a Buddhist then.
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« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2005, 05:45:57 PM »
Okay. Even though I just posed threats to all of your noble truths.
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« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2005, 04:20:55 PM »
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Okay. Even though I just posed threats to all of your noble truths.

since when is these mine. Second I didn't know you believed in reincarnation.
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« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2005, 06:24:28 PM »
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since when [are] these mine[?]

Since you started the thread.
Since you keep talking like you're in love with buddhism.

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Second

You need a 'first' if you're gonna have a 'second.'

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I didn't know you believed in reincarnation.

I bet Matt didn't know it either!
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« Reply #56 on: January 14, 2005, 04:57:29 PM »
Those are the Dhali Lamas truths and the Dhali Lama is reincaranated Buhdha..
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« Reply #57 on: January 14, 2005, 06:37:14 PM »
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the Dhali Lama is reincaranated Buhdha..


You really believe that?!  Wow, you really ARE a buddhist!
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« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2005, 06:05:48 PM »
Jason I know almost about Christianity as you and I probaly know more about religions than you do.
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« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2005, 08:13:27 PM »
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Jason I know almost about Christianity as you and I probaly know more about religions than you do.


If you say so  :salute:
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