Topic: TIME. Is there a Clock? (Read 671 times)

Zagzagel · « **on:** January 04, 2009, 06:10:55 PM »

In thinking about how things came to exist.. I wondered about time. Evolution, on many levels, has failed to impress me. This is really not the fault of my mind to comprehend the idealogy and naturalistic view of Darwinism.

Sometimes Religion doesn't impress me at all.. either.. when it comes to their explanations.

Time. What is that? When did "time" begin?

So.. is did our universe begin or has it always been?

I think that it has always been... begotten... was to be.... and therefore began.

I would like to suggest that the answer for our "time" is God who has no beginning or end.. confused?

Just think about it. :)

jfoxton · « **Reply #1 on:** May 09, 2009, 08:28:39 PM »

Zagzagel -
Someone made the comment "if there is movement there is the passage of time - right?" I think that is a very astute observation. - at least as we understand the physical realm and even the spiritual realm. God is the only thing, living or not living, Who has attributed to Them the aspect of eternal (no beginning and no end), as different from immortal (has a beginning but no end). Since God knows the beginning to the end, He can tell us, before hand, what He deems appropriate for our good and His glory. So what we perceive as unknown and unpredictable is pre-known but not determined/predestined. It just will happen, just like yesterday happened. As you read Revelation it becomes obvious that events on earth trigger events in heaven and conversely. Time is apparently trans-dimensional. Way over my head!!
The book of Revelation/Apocalypse was ignored for centuries, the better part of two millennia, because it talked about things that were ludicrous before the modern world - now it reads like tomorrows newspaper (I'll have to drop that thought for "reads like tonight's web news").
I certainly cannot pretend to understand how existence could be without time (or space or any number of other things that are the construct of my world). I understand that one of the great Jewish scholars read the Genesis account and concluded that there were 12 dimensions revealed in it and therefore concluded that God must inhabit the 13th dimension that intersected all the other dimensions - not sure I believe or understand all that (floating again - darn!) If you've concluded that I haven't concluded anything much, I'm not about to argue that!

PhilC · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2010, 04:47:36 AM »

This is a difficult question to answer in simple terms.

When Newton discovered the theory of gravity and the laws of motion he had to assume that time was fixed and eternal. If you

had a clock and someone on the other side of the universe also had a clock then they would see the same time.

Einstein showed that this is not the case. In his Special Theory of Relativity he showed that time is relative. It depends on

your speed. The faster you travel, the slower time goes. This has been measured, but it is only measured at extreme speeds.

In his General Theory of Relativity he showed that time is also dependant on ones position in space, and that any gravitational

field one happens to be in alters time. This linked Time with space and became the famous space-time continuum.

What difference does this make? Well, it means that because they are linked, Time is just another dimension (obviously the

fourth) and that without space there is no time. This also means that before the Big Bang there was no Time.

What actually is time though?

We don't know, except that it seems to be a measure of entropy which is a probabalistic term showing the increase in unuseable

energy. That is even more oversimplified than the first bit, but time from a scienticic POV is a useful term which most people

don't think about too much.

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Evolution, on many levels, has failed to impress me. This is really not the fault of my mind to comprehend the idealogy

and naturalistic view of Darwinism.

This discussion on Time has nothing to do with Evolution, of course. Time is used within evolution of course but is assumed that the physicists understand it. Biologists do not need to worry about that side.

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