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Re: Dirty politics
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2008, 09:50:53 AM »

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I haven't explored it.   Your link to the Fact Check site was the first I had seen a 'hard copy' birth cert and I simply remarked that it did not seem to be the same as what I recollected when I looked at it first on Obama's site.  I didn't go back to Obama's site to re-compare, I was working off the recollection.  I noted it again simply because Berg himself said that they weren't the same.

The question is moot, in my opinion.  The governor in Hawaii has sealed Obama's birth certificate record, which obviously would be pointless if it was already out in the public domain.  In other words, there remains the very real possibility that what is in the 'vault' is not what has been displayed.

The truly larger issue is why on earth Presidential candidates do not have to submit this information to an independent board in order to pursue the presidency.  I had to produce an original, 'from the vault' birth certificate to get my social security number (well, my parents did) and I had to produce an original 'from the vault' birth certificate in order to get my CDL.  It amazes me that I have to produce more documentation to get a commercial drivers license then one has to produce to be president of these United States.

I note too that reportedly Kenya has also sealed its available records.  Odd that it would have any records at all, if you ask me. 

Cop:  I don't care what you think because you wouldn't care, anyway.  That whole 'natural born' requirement is just one more thing that you wouldn't mind seeing reinterpreted in light of the 'living document' attitude if it came to it.  For you, whether Obama is natural born or not is irrelevant, except insofar as if it came out that he wasn't a lot of other Americans would care.
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Re: Dirty politics
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2008, 10:47:33 AM »

Cop:  I don't care what you think because you wouldn't care, anyway.  That whole 'natural born' requirement is just one more thing that you wouldn't mind seeing reinterpreted in light of the 'living document' attitude if it came to it.  For you, whether Obama is natural born or not is irrelevant, except insofar as if it came out that he wasn't a lot of other Americans would care.

There you go again.  You do this all the time.  You make up things that I never said, and you attribute positions to me that I do not hold.  I suspect that you really believe this nonsense, because you often have great difficulty distinguishing between reality and imagination.  The problem is that, once having said it, you forget that you were the source of the claim.  I believe that the Constitution ought to be amended to allow naturalized citizens to run for the presidency, but the Constitution does not allow that under any "living document" interpretation.

This issue is a total red herring, because Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii.  There is zero evidence that he was born in Kenya, but there are a lot of rumors and viral emails that are spreading all sorts of nonsense.  I think that you waste everyone's time with such nonsense, but mostly your own.  McCain has no chance of recovering from his slide in the polls unless he can give positive reasons for people to elect him.  He has gotten himself caught in his own quagmire by leading his followers to spread lies and character attacks.  It is too late in the campaign for those kinds of tactics to do anything to save his failed campaign strategy.  Demonization tactics only work at this stage with those who have already decided that Obama is a demon.
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Re: Dirty politics
« Reply #42 on: November 02, 2008, 08:59:08 PM »

I feel the world coming to an end.... ;)
« Last Edit: November 03, 2008, 06:59:13 PM by Zagzagel »
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