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Against an infinite creator
« on: January 29, 2008, 02:33:02 PM »
1. All personal beings are finite in some way. [confirmed empirical generalization]
2. Therefore, if a personal being created the universe, then probably, it is finite in some way.
3. The God of traditional monotheism is a personal being who created the universe but is not finite in any way.
4. Therefore, the God of traditional monotheism probably doesn
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Re: Against an infinite creator
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 10:25:53 PM »
I'm not sure if you're serious or trying to show some flaw in some atheist's argument.

Obviously premise 1 is lacking in detail and premise 3 shows this to be the case.
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Re: Against an infinite creator
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 10:46:35 PM »
Quote from: Apollos on January 29, 2008, 10:25:53 PM
I'm not sure if you're serious or trying to show some flaw in some atheist's argument.

Obviously premise 1 is lacking in detail and premise 3 shows this to be the case.

Sadly he's very serious, and thinks himself to be very clever in trying to disprove something that usually requires a large amount of deep thought with a simple deductive statement. I frankly wonder if he's ever heard of the Trinity before.
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Re: Against an infinite creator
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 11:30:04 PM »
Hey EB, did you get my welcome private message?

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EB, I hear what you're saying- 4 propositions ending traditional monotheism after all these years?  What have people been thinking?

We might suggest Augustine's 500 page treatise on the Trinity as a good place to start:  http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1301.htm



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Re: Against an infinite creator
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2008, 12:02:57 AM »
Quote from: sntjohnny on January 29, 2008, 11:30:04 PM
Hey EB, did you get my welcome private message?

Yes indeed. Though I saw it in my e-mail with a "Do not respond." message so I respected it. I'm very much enjoying my short experience here, and am learning a great deal from all sides. If nothing else it's encouraging to know there are others that see the same problems I see with opposing arguements.

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EB, I hear what you're saying- 4 propositions ending traditional monotheism after all these years?  What have people been thinking?

We might suggest Augustine's 500 page treatise on the Trinity as a good place to start:  http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1301.htm

Odd, I can't seem to bring up the page. Is it just me?
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Re: Against an infinite creator
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2008, 12:09:58 AM »
Ah, well I'm glad I asked about it then.  The email that gets sent is a courtesy from the forum software, so responding to it just doesn't work.  However, that is a feature that can be turned off so that instead you can just get a message-less notification or even no notification at all.  To reply to a private message, you have to do so from the private message section on the forum.  Depending on the theme you're viewing, there should be a place to the top right or in the main menu that says 'messages.'  That will take you to your message center where you can compose or reply to private messages.

I just doublechecked the Augustine link.  She's working for me using Mozilla Firefox.
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Re: Against an infinite creator
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2008, 12:25:59 AM »
Quote from: sntjohnny on January 30, 2008, 12:09:58 AM
I just doublechecked the Augustine link.  She's working for me using Mozilla Firefox.

Now I've got it. Just needed to restart my computer. #-o
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Re: Against an infinite creator
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2008, 10:24:20 PM »

Obvious troll is obvious.

I have to ask though, what the heck is a "confirmed empirical generalization"?

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Re: Against an infinite creator
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 02:34:31 AM »
I'm pretty sure the answer starts with "bull" and ends with something roughly synonymous to "feces"... it's at the tip of my tongue but just won't come out! GAH! DX
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