Hi Zag,
I'm curious, do you mean by "Universalists" "Universalists/Unitarians"?

Also, do you mean by "Christians are the most stubborn people of all" that all the groups you mention are "Christians"?

I am also curious what Universalist board banned you and why if I may ask?

I am one who believes in Universalism.

It might not have anything to do with the group one belongs to but it might have something to do with the maturity level of the person you spoke with that will not listen to your side.

I will admit thought that the J.W.'s I think are not allowed to consider other views.

The world hates christianity?  Spare us the hyperbolic victim complex, EB, it's not pretty.

And i can't really support the OP.  i don't think christians are particularly more stubborn than anyone else in the world with a strong belief in something, theists or atheists.  Everyone reasons for their own ideology, whether they realise it or not.

DB,

EB is speaking of world in the theological sense.  You gotta brush up on your Christianese.

Peace, homes.

"Speaking of world in the theological sense"?   Think  Could you elaborate on that?  How is the world in the theological sense different from the world in the actual sense?"

The use here is of 'world' in the materialistic, narcissistic, selfish, ambitious, egotistic, rationalizing (ie, I'm stealing this guy's cupcake, but its ok), I am my own master, I am god, sense.

This certainly can dovetail into the sense that you took it as but it need not.  See for example John 3:16-21 and 15:18

 
"Well i'll work on that.  It looks like a good skill to have, especially if it allows one to claim exemption for any statement made which in retrospect appears to be incoherent, contradictory or flat-out delusional by explaining that it was meant "in the theological sense".  If only there was a secular version of that..."

There is a secular version of that.  It's called "every word that comes out of the secular mouth." 

No, but seriously, this is really a reach, don't you think?  an exemption for 'any statement'?  When was the last time you saw someone deploy this exemption?  No, it is perfectly reasonable for words to be used within a certain context which might be taken by others differently.  Medical terminology, for example.  Theoretical physics (like, 'spin').  And if you asked me to mail you a rubber the reaction would be different then if I asked you to send me a rubber.   Cuz you're in England and all.*

But I would protest the point you think is 'incoherent' or delusional.  You like to think that Christianity holds all this sway and any concern they might have about being persecuted is unfounded.  That is incoherent and delusional.  But I don't expect you to see it or agree.  You are, after all, part of the world. 

"Good luck for today Big Chief.  You know i'm rooting for McCain and the She-Bush all the way."

I'm sure you are.  But luck won't have anything to do with it.  :)

*Added to make sure people understand the example and don't think I'm engaged in a condom distribution ring.

Zag, that is interesting you got banned just for mentioning my name LOL! Was that the unie board on CARM that used to be?

I always feel sorry for people who are banned as I too know the feeling.

Yea, there are different Universalists. Hyper spiritual, U/U, Kingdom, Dispensationalist, Charismatic, etc. Me? I'm just a believer, who, among many other things I believe also believe God will save all.

You seem so reasonable in your posts. I can't imagine you getting banned.

Tony