Funny, neither do I.

You feeling O.K.?

Maybe my one topic should of been "Christians are Stupid and/or Crazy".

I knew god was a racist. lol

Pro 21:1 Like rillets of water is the king's heart in the hand of Yahweh; Wherever He inclines, He turns it aside."

Interesting little proverb there johnny, yet packed with much wisdom. In the olden days in Israel they would irrigate their crops by furrows. The water would run diagonally to these furrows and only a little kick of the dirt to open up the channel of water or a little kick of the dirt to close off the flow of water to that row of crop was all it took. Thus also is the way God works. It's not hard for Him to control humanity.


"Come now, you who are saying, "Today or tomorrow we will be going into this or that city and should be spending a year there, and we will be trafficking and getting gain-who are not versed in that which is the morrow's, for what is your life? For a vapor are you, which is appearing briefly and thereupon disappearing instead of your saying, "If the Lord should ever be willing, and we shall be living, we also shall be doing this or that." Yet now you are vaunting in your ostentations. All such boasting is wicked" (James 4:13-17).

So, johnny, are you into wicked boasting in boasting that you can do whatever you want? You think that going to town and going shopping is outside the jurisdiction of God Almighty? If He doesn't will it, it ain't gonna happen. That is what James 4:13-17 is saying. Believest thou this?

Tony

You two almost make me weep sometimes.  Instead of searching for things you agree upon (people who die without Christ will suffer a terrible punishment, accuracy of the NT, the best life is the one that glorifies God the most) you stick to attacking each other (different than arguing) on the same point over and over again.  If Christianity is at all about fellowship it seems quite lacking.

And I will ask you again: "So, johnny, are you into wicked boasting in boasting that you can do whatever you want?"

Have you never read about King David and how he numbered Israel? That was a sin to do that johnny. And who MADE David sin? Yes, johnny, actually MADE David to sin. Do you know? Do you know who violated David's will? I'll give you three guesses

1) David
2) Satan
3) God

sntjohnny said:

I feel obliged to say, "He started it!"

I know what you mean! There's a nut-case in my county who has it in for me, and whom I will not miss when he finally takes the Eternal Celestial Dirt-nap. For my part, this is because he;
A) Is former Law Enforcement, and takes much pride in the numbers of people he has caused to be arrested and convicted of non-violent, victimless activities. That means, he is a bully with a gun who wants to control others. I disliked him already, but that was all.
B) Threatened me with physical bodily harm ("I'll do war with you - physical war" are the exact words he used). He did that while hiding behind a pseudonym taken from a popluar movie. He knew my name, address, etc. but at the time I knew only what I've told you above about him so far.
To recap: He's somebody who once was supposed to enforce the law, he has a gun and is trained in using it, and threatened to violently attack an innocent and harmless person, with the intent to kill, while hiding behind a nom de guerre.
The name he was going under: "Braveheart."
Really!
Why did he threaten me? Because I disagreed with him, and could make my case with evidence he could not counter (because he had none - except the old "might makes right - and I have the might" line.) This disagreement was probably over the War on Drugs, but I could be wrong.
I called management of the board on which the threat was communicated and complained, but declined to have him banned.

I have since determined his identity, and have openly vocally opposed him in the last election * when he ran for school board (like HE should be allowed anywhere NEAR or empowered over a child in any capacity and/or for any reason! ) I opposed him by calling him a name. Childish, I know, but effective. The name I called him was not "Bully" or "Coward", but "Tax & Spend Liberal." What irked him about that particular tag was that it's true - and he's a member of the Republican Party.  I prefered to identify him as a "RINO." That stands for "Republican In Name Only."

That's background.

Since then, he's been trying to bait me into another confrontation. He'll start a thread, and wait like a spider on its web, for me to show up so he can get me to say something for which he can get me banned from the forum. Somehow, the forum's management allowed this thug-with-a-gun to be named "moderator." I think he's just waiting for an excuse to ban me.
It isn't working.
The last one he started was about the Libertarian Party losing its affiliation in my State. All Libertarians have been reassigned as "unaffiliated voters."  He claimed to be for it - prefers the Two Party System.
I showed up, just because I know he wants me to, and had my say and then watched. I said that the State should have no say what-so-ever about what political party a person can be a member of or vote for. My State's rules are among the most restrictive in the Nation.
As expected, he struck.
I ignored the attack, and watched the thread die. That's pretty amusing to me.

* I did not run against him. I was running for another office at the time.

Nojc, that is an extremely interesting story you tell there.  I kept my real life identity very much under wraps for a long, long time.  I made sure that very little personal information could make it onto yahoo and google, but it just grew to be impossible.  You just never know what is out there.

Anyway:

"I was looking at this, and wondered if we could set up a sort of quiz, list a bunch of concepts, and ask people to check off those with which they agree. But that could take pages and pages of concepts. We could start with "God" and wind up with "the sky is pretty."
Any ideas for something better?"

This is exactly where I got hung up.  I don't know what to start out with.  What is something so rudimentary that we might in fact be able to get everyone to agree with?  There is no way Heretic is going to agree the sky is pretty right now... its raining mortars on him.  I have some ideas on where I think such a thread SHOULD start, but I don't think they'd get very far.  Better to start with something that has some legs.

So no, I don't have any better ideas.  Anyone else?