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« Reply #200 on: February 09, 2006, 09:36:12 AM »

How is my point meaningless?  Is it not true that Pauls theme is about Israel and how Gentiles are become participants with them of the root?

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The olive tree speaks of the oil pressed from the olive for light. The nations, while they are on the earth, are to be light bearers until the Lord should come back. Then the nations will be taken out and Israel grafted back in to become the light bearers. When the nations are taken out they go to be among the celestials. The Israelite light bearers remain on the earth during the 1000 years.


Your statement here continually seperates believing Israel and believing Gentile who Paul affirms are both participants together in the root of the olive tree.

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« Reply #201 on: February 09, 2006, 08:23:39 PM »

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How is my point meaningless?  Is it not true that Pauls theme is about Israel and how Gentiles are become participants with them of the root?

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The olive tree speaks of the oil pressed from the olive for light. The nations, while they are on the earth, are to be light bearers until the Lord should come back. Then the nations will be taken out and Israel grafted back in to become the light bearers. When the nations are taken out they go to be among the celestials. The Israelite light bearers remain on the earth during the 1000 years.


Your statement here continually seperates believing Israel and believing Gentile who Paul affirms are both participants together in the root of the olive tree.

G.



Tony's reply:
Here is the exchange. Let's see your meaningless point:

Tony wrote before:
The olive tree speaks of the oil pressed from the olive for light. The nations, while they are on the earth, are to be light bearers until the Lord should come back. Then the nations will be taken out and Israel grafted back in to become the light bearers. When the nations are taken out they go to be among the celestials. The Israelite light bearers remain on the earth during the 1000 years.

Two different destinies.

geegee replied:
Your answer is pressing more into it than what the Point is. In no way does this passage support all your additives.

G.

Tony's reply:
Actually, my point is correct and your statement is meaningless.

Tony's new post:
 The believers of the nations do partake of the root and fatness of the olive tree. There were still some Israelite believers plugged into the tree. When the nations are cut out of the tree once again then there will only be Israelite believers grafted in. When that happens just the Jews will be the light bearers on the earth with a few proselytes to Judaism.
Does this make sense?
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Did God say that He "will have all mankind to be saved" or that He "will NOT have all mankind to be saved? (1Tim.2:4-6]
Did God say He IS the Saviour of all mankind, or that He "is NOT the Saviour of all mankind? (1Tim.4:10)


Well?
Are we told to "charge and teach these things" or are we told "NOT to charge and teach these things"? (1Tim.4:10,11).


Well? Are we?

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« Reply #202 on: February 18, 2006, 08:51:07 AM »

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« Reply #203 on: February 22, 2006, 10:06:39 PM »

After some thought, I thought to continue here would be a continious beating of a corpse,.

....even if i was to raise the example of a particular Jewish believers selling off their land which would be paramount to unbelief in this spouting Abraham/seperatist belief of a foolish doctrine which believes only in an earthly covenant....LOL.   Two were killed and carried off for this..didn't ya know.  (Think deeply)

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« Reply #204 on: February 23, 2006, 05:44:14 AM »

So geegee, then you must believe God lied when He promised those Israelites the land with very specific boundaries "forever" then huh?
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Then He said to me, "Depart, for I will send you far from here to the gentiles"..........Paul, "the apostle to the gentiles".

"I am sent but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel" Jesus....... "Go not into the way of the gentiles" Jesus to the 12.
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